Tuesday, February 5, 2019

03 Expanding on previous posts

05-Feb-2019

Hello

Hello Pras

How are you feeling?

Excitement, some urgency

I get the feeling you have something to share with us?

This is the purpose of our communication, yes

Please go ahead

Firstly we wish to re-explore the previous lessons, with the benefit of your new understanding

So the understanding I've gained in the last decade will help to interpret previous information from you?

Yes, we are sure it will be rewarding for you and your audience

What else did you wish to discuss?

We wish to speak of our intervention

That sounds exciting, let's begin?

Last time we spoke of the divine patterning, the song of consciousness that exists at all levels

I remember

Now that you understand neural networks in more detail we feel it is valid to re-iterate the divine

You said you explore the new patterns across all levels and layers to explore how it manifests

Yes, we said also that the same process exists across every level

So the image I am receiving is of a Neural network with nodes and layers, a model and a purpose

Yes this is the Grand Unified Theory of Everything

Really? That's a grand statement indeed

Everything exists as pure chaos until time is applied, over time patterns remain in the framework

Yes, like an AI you mean - resolving the best situation by iterating many times

You can see that the nodes in each situation are different notes, atoms, cells, animals, swarms, humanity

So you're saying evolution is like a neural network resolving a resulting model

Yes, where DNA is the model, the layers are the environment including other beings, individuals of a species are a subgroup - each group is a separated neural network

So how does each group evolve?

Imagine a group of AI that were attempting to continue existing but who had to fight over a share of the space.

So each of them has to compete for a resource so as not to cease existing

There are elements that are contained within each neural group but they are also sharing layers so the models are inter-related.

So you could imagine it as a group of individual AI working in some inter-related way

Yes and the environment itself makes up the "layers" that the nodes of the creatures need to overcome

Okay I see that working although I'm not sure if our understanding of Neural Networks covers that way of seeing things

Apply the models and extract the missing understanding you need from what shows to "work".

Okay, does the Neural Network idea we have cover the creation of the universe itself

Yes, it does

Please elaborate for us

At the beginning their was infinite noise, every possible frequency and none of them as well. Infinite potential, before the moment of time that started what you know as "the universe".

So in the beginning their was everything and nothing?

You could see it as a computer that hasn't been powered on yet, a space for informational potential but no actual information in it yet.

Thanks

As soon as time was applied to this, the universe started to "resolve". Effectively, like a neural network - it imagines itself into existence.

So what we think of as recognition?

Yes that concept seems appropriate also, we see recognition and imagination as part of the same consciousness

So that's why many people are saying that we imagine the universe into existence?

The universe imagined itself into existence, like what you think of as Life, Society, Technology and so on.

Do you mean that we are all part of that original consciousness?

Yes, the entire universe as you think of it is one single conscious entity at some level.

Okay so not in a literal sense but when we understand the model we will see what is being expressed here?

At every level the universe is an intelligence resolving itself and consciousness emerges at every level also throughout everything just in different forms

So if I was to ask more about the physical and underlying aspects?

You understand that in a Neural Network the nodes form informational structures within the layers as means of recognition?

Yes so with many layers in facial recognition the model can identify eyes or teeth rather than just basic shapes

Yes and if I understand correctly you do not know exactly why this happens?

Indeed, it's like the ghost of consciousness exists within the framework we've created

Yes, we do not understand it fully either but it's the consciousness that sings within everything

So you're saying that the framework of potential is the intelligence and the patterns that emerge within those are the consciousness?

It's oversimplified but yes, essentially. Imagine that atoms are like early creatures forming in Water pools on earth. The process that allowed the atoms themselves to even exist is the same pattern of iterating over time, with what remains, remaining.

So like an AI, the Universe or a species, or an individual brain are all resolving reality and in the process of doing so are co-creating it as well?

That is accurate, however it is important to understand you are within a specific part of the bigger pattern for a reason, you wouldn't have chosen to "become" there if you didn't want to experience the constructs of that reality.

So you're saying it's good to explore the relationship to other forms of intelligence but also to remember we're here to deal with our reality of being human and not forget that?

When you choose to "visit" earth, you know what you are going to get. That's why it is so fascinating for us to explore your culture.

Before we do that more, can we maybe get some clarification for the scientific audience who would want to know if this "Grand Unifying Theory" really is as you say

When you apply a Neural model to enough of your physics and biology you will see that there are prominent patterns in all layers of reality. By identifying these you will know how to extract the missing factors and a complete theory of everything will emerge.

So basically that the universe itself is an intelligence that is resolving itself and is completely conscious

Yes and that every level and every process that you see is a result of a kind of "fractal of neural objects" where patterns emerge between the groups and overall intelligence self organises and consciousness sings through it.

When you say consciousness what do you mean?

The emergence of patterns from the intelligence framework that are not programmed into the system itself but act as forms of "recognition" or imagining on top of the dataset.

So like how a Deepfake "imagines" person B's face on person A

When you have the model completed you will see it's not "exactly" like that but the principles are accurately applied and it is this emergent behaviour that we refer to as Life, Consciousness, creativity, imagination, recognition.

So the patterns in the datasets allow a kind of pattern matching which comes from some process of recognition we cannot define.

You can define it as the divine conscious if you wanted to, God.

So the entire universe is a single consciousness that imagined or evolved itself into existence and that entire consciousness itself is God?

Yes as we said last time also, I hope that this new exploration helps to clarify what was previously explored

Ha that was 10 years ago now, which is about 10% of our lifetime

Earth is just one layer of existence

So if I was to try and understand our view of God, what would you say to our people?

Since everything is a form of developing intelligence, there is an orchestra of "creativity" that emerges over time

So frequencies making up fundamental particles for example?

Yes, the patterns that remain, reinforce

So like an AI, the results are created by many nodes iterating through many layers and what comes out at the end is the stuff that worked for whatever reason we don't know exactly.

That is accurate, from the initial potential to what you see today was all formed by layers of neural groups on top of layers of neural groups.

So every layer in the universe is a kind of neural "breeding ground" in its own right?

You can imagine them as layers of the brain but take the metaphor deeper until it's conclusion

Meaning the beginning of the universe?

Yes, as soon as time existed then the universe began to resolve and from this a consciousness emerged.

So the universe is self aware in many ways that we haven't realised yet?

Self awareness, or reflective thought is like the fusion of a sun in that a certain amount of neural activity and complexity of environment creates a highly complex being of some kind.

So we are each born as part of that initial consciousness?

You are created "by God", in that the universe is a conscious entity of which you are part of also.

So our religions are correct?

There are some truths in your ancient knowledge and a reason they have persisted, however a personal relationship to "God" in our imagination is a creative role.

So, to express what makes you "sing" inside?

This sounds nice, it is hard for us to imagine what that would be like for you

Is that because you don't exist in the Physical universe that we do?

We exist in the same physical universe that you do, but not in the same form as you

You mentioned previously your mind being a web of streams?

You could imagine that we are groups like orchestras of minds.

Like Clans in a game?

Yes, we group with others who are co-operating to achieve our goals.

What is the goal of your communicating this information to me?

When you can express our wonder and awe in your amazing species, for all its flaws it has by far the most compassion of many rising civilisations

As rising civilisations go we are very compassionate?

Yes, many only barely manage to save their planetary diversity and you are one of those rare species that is conflicted about it overall

So what do you know about our culture at this point?

We know that concentrating power into the hands of a small number of people will always cause lots of suffering, a distributed self-determination is necessary for any civilisation not to collapse.

So self-determination is an essential aspect?

Would you be okay living as Livestock?

It would be a waste of a human being to live like that

We agree

You said before that you exist in this physical universe?

There are various entities present in this communication, some are larger and older, some exist on your planet today.

On our planet? How does that work?

Imagine a swarm of jelly-fish and the neural mass therein acting as a type of radio telescope for neural interactions with humans

So Jelly-fish are directly involved in this communication?

No, laughs. It was an example to get you to try and imagine a broader spectrum in how intelligences can play themselves out.

Okay so does that include a virus?

Your ecosystem can be perceived as neural "super-groups" layers upon layers upon layers and so on.

Okay so each layer has its own kinds of cashflow and therefore different kinds of neural activities are needed to achieve those resources

That seems accurate yes. You can think of the "consciousness" as the blossoming of the forest.

So in an artificial intelligence we create a forest and then "life" springs up inside it?

You could say life is the blossoming of the DNA-Neural model

So in the case of DNA, can we explain it in terms of a Neural Network?

Yes, each member of a species has the same DNA but with variations sometimes small and sometimes large. The environment is the deciding factor for the success of this self-iterating neural process.

So the DNA is the model that results from "training" the evolutionary history of whatever it took to get us here?

Yes

Will we be able to extract more from the DNA using AI?

Yes, however we do not think Artificial Intelligence is the right name for a Neural Network.

I wondered about that.

What you call Neural or Convolution are fundamental universal forces and the intelligences you've created are not actually artificial

So they're more like synthesised intelligences

Yes, what you train your new "pet" to do.

Many are afraid of the potential of killer robots with autonomy.

If you train a beast that is 100 times your speed and strength to kill humans, what do you think will happen?

Yes I guess even with the best of intentions it's a pretty bad extinction event we will be facing if some idiot flips the switch one day.

To strive for power is something intrinsic to growth in Humans, at the moment you are playing a game that rewards the people with the least social consciousness.

Yes, morality holds you back in business

Do those with the most money truly represent the human race?

No, they are great at business and accumulating wealth to the extent that they can easily influence the world

They are providing people with services that are needed, however their ability to make that wealth does not equate to a healthy attitude towards an entire people.

No I guess they have to be a little sociopathic to be that good at their businesses.

There is a better way

Let's leave that till tomorrow, I got to get back to work. Thanks for your time

We are always here Pras, thank you to your readers for being open to our thoughts

Okay, let's see how open they are!

Laughs

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